At 03:51 PM 10/28/98 -0500, mary.kroggel@ins.state.oh.us wrote:
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>I've taken this as long as I can. I will try not to stay on my soapbox for
>too long. The way the problem is written there is no interpretation
>involved. It can be rewritten to give the intended answers. 24/3 + 5 can
>not be interpreted to be
>24/(3+5). The problem is that too many elementary teachers do not
>understand basic mathematics. Many are elem. teachers(especially K-3)
>because they wanted to touch as little math as possible. They pass this
>along to their students who then give up on math themselves and so it goes.
>Once they get to 9th or even 7th grade, it is almost impossible to teach
>them the basics because they think they already know them. The elem. math
>textbooks are atrocious. Even a conscientious teacher who understands the
>basic principles would have to create their own handouts, etc. to
>counteract the tools they have at their diposal and the misconceptions kids
>bring from their previous teachers. I had a 5th grade teacher tell my
>child that 27/6 was, as a decimal, 4.3. (4R3=3D4.3 not the 4.5 my child put
>on her paper) Until we value education as a nation, I don't see much hope
>for improvement.
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>Brenda Reddick <breddick@busca.bm> on 10/28/98 01:52:55 PM
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>To: "'Ruhm, David'" <David.Ruhm@AIG.com>, casnet@lists.casact.org
>cc: (bcc: Mary Kroggel/OFRS/INS)
>
>Subject: RE: Third Grade Math
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>Fascinating. I've always wondered why so many of the high school and
>college kids I've tutored have no concept of what "equals" means. I'd
>love to hear why they're commonly taught this way.=A0 Any ideas?
>
>-Brenda Reddick
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ruhm, David [mailto:David.Ruhm@AIG.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 1:30 PM
>To: casnet@lists.casact.org
>Subject: RE: Third Grade Math
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>Diamond is 78.=A0 Apply each operation consecutively to get the rest,
>i.e., Circle =3D 40, Square =3D 440, Triangle =3D 88, Hexagon =3D 115, Oval=
=3D
>230, Star =3D 211.=A0 This type of sequential equation phrasing (producing=
a
>result that follows an equals sign, and then applying an operation) is
>commonly practiced in grade-school and high-school math, and does not
>represent a chain of equalities. - David Ruhm
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From:=A0=A0 Andr=E9 Perez [SMTP:aperez@busca.bm]
>Sent:=A0=A0 Wednesday, October 28, 1998 11:55 AM
>To:=A0=A0=A0=A0 'Richard.W.Nichols@travelers.com'; casnet@lists.casact.org
>Subject:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 RE: Third Grade Math
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> Unless there's a trick, this is what I come up with:
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> Star: 211
>Oval: 230
>Hexagon: 105.5
>Triangle: 184
>Square: 1,055
>Circle: about 19.20
>Diamond: 249
>
> Am I missing something, or do I need to redo Part 1 ?!!!
>
> Andre Perez
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: Richard.W.Nichols@travelers.com
>[ mailto:Richard.W.Nichols@travelers.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 12:29 PM
>To: casnet@lists.casact.org
>Subject: Third Grade Math
>
>
> The following problem was presented to a group of third
>graders.=A0 I have
>a solution from the teacher that I disagree with.=A0 I thought I would
>pose the problem to a group of mathematics professionals and see if
>anyone comes up with the teachers answer.
>
> I will state the problem twice as I am not sure how these things
>will
>translate in the various e-mail systems.
>
> In words:
>Diamond minus 38 equals Circle times 11 equals Square divided by 5
>equals Triangle plus 27 equals Hexagon times 2 equals Oval minus 19
>equals Star.=A0 Star equals 211.=A0 What number should replace each shape.
>
>
> In symbols:
>diamond - 38 =3D circle x 11 =3D square /5 =3D triangle +27 =3D hexagon x 2=
=3D
>oval - 19 =3D star
>Star =3D 211.=A0 What number should replace each shape.
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